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I don't know the whole story but from what I gather, you lost money to a bookie who wasn't paying pople anyway...Is that the story? Why then are people taking up for the scamming bookie? If he was known not to pay than , I don't see how anyone expects you to pay him...JMO


And I guarantee, if this was me you would be ripping me a new ass...:neenee: I don't think you should pay though, from the info I see...This guy was taking shots, am I correct?

Why is drunkguy siding with the scamming bookie?

Can someone explain this one?
 
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This guy might say otherwise but my own people confirmed it was him & a # of respected posters on numerous forums confirmed it was him. I know for a fact this guy is a scammer & I only wish I knew that before playing with this clown. I let the prior situation I had where I got stiffed right before this influence me & cloud my judgement. I should have known better as this was the easiest credit I've EVER gotten.

I now know of yet another person who was stiffed by this character but I won't reveal their name since they asked me not too & I respect their privacy. The only reason IMO some have stuck up for this guy is because they are of the belief you bet, you lose, you pay which I normally agree with as well but the cirumstances are quite different here.
 

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The surrounding circumstances makes it tricky...it sure sounds like it was a scam though...what I don't understand is why some of your 'camp' of posters are saying for you to pay anyway...when they realize you would not have been paid?
 
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I don't control what others think or what they think of me quite frankly. I can't worry about what strangers on the internet think. I just go about my business & leave it at that.

I consider this guy a PR type, he won't just out & out scam you, he builds confidence & then give it time & the **** up will occur.
 

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So you're saying he has paid some players looking for the bigger kill, unless they beat him bad?

I am trying to read between the lines here...did he pay anyone that you know of ?
 
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I don't know every player that has ever played with him but of the ones I know of, they got stiffed in one way or another. The one player I know that was paid was slow payed for awhile though but not sure of the status at this current second.

I'm leaving for awhile as I have some matters to attend too. I'll be back later.
 
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I saw a post where you were not exactly siding with EGD Drunk...

What are your thoughts on this than DG?
 

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my thoughts on this are:

it is no one's business other than the 2 people involved.

I know more about this than I care to share due to some conversations I had awhile ago unrelated to this particular situation. Let me say I am not particularly concerned if EGD does not pay.

Things are not always as they appear especially to people who are observing from the sidelines.
 

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drunkguy said:
my thoughts on this are:

it is no one's business other than the 2 people involved.

I know more about this than I care to share due to some conversations I had awhile ago unrelated to this particular situation. Let me say I am not particularly concerned if EGD does not pay.

Things are not always as they appear especially to people who are observing from the sidelines.
:aktion033 BINGO...If you only knew how many times I've seen posts about the site or certain individuals complete opposite of the truth posted....


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 it is no one's business other than the 2 people involved
If its no one's business why were you asking about it just this past weekend, bumping an old thread? :)

I think it is relevant:) alot of poster's should be made aware of these sort of agreements that go sour ...
 

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drunkid is alot like raiders.. there both awful handicappers.. and they both lie there asses off online... I saw were drunkid bumped that old thread as well, tell him about it however and he starts saying otherwise...
 

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Lmao.



Come on. This guy lost $4k in 2 weeks and said it would be a miracle if he could come up with $1000 by weeks end, and that he likely couldnt even come up with $500.

This was long before he even dreamed up the "he is a scammer - yeah thats it" excuse. It had to be because he asked the bookie if he could keep betting. " Can I still play because I dont expect to be down much if any at all by weeks end"

Fully 6 weeks after his " It would be a miracle if I could come up with $1000 by Friday" message, he posted on the boards that the bookie was a good guy, and that he knew nothing bad of the bookie.



I dont care if he ever pays, and I dont care if the bookie does anything to him or not but lets call a spade a spade. The guy got behind a little and then started chasing trying to get up. He quickly found himself $4k in the whole, and was still planning to try and cahse his way out of it, when the bookie told him he couldnt play anymore until he paid up. At that point, chasing his way out of the whole was no longer a possibility, so he went searching for a new excuse.

The guy lost the money. He should pay it even if it be through some charity as was offered him. Clearly, this guy doesnt have the money as was shown by his " it would be a miracle" message long before this current excuse was dreamed up.

The person I blame the most here is the bookie. I mean he is trying to run a business supposedly, and is giving credit to some stranger over the internet. Please. What does he think he is going to find on the internet ? The only takers he is going to get is guys who are broke and cant actually post up and play anywhere. I mean if the player actually had money, why would he be playing through some internet bookie ? The only reason for it is that he didnt have the money to post up anywhere. Of course the player is going to turn out to be a stiff.

Anyone who is thinking of offering players credit over the internet should read that credit article posted on page #1. "why would I ever offer credit to some guy whose best credential is that he has way too much time on his hands to be posting on all the boards all day" How true.
 

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If there is anyone on this board who thinks this guy ever had any intentions of paying this $4k for 1 second at any point in any time, please contact me I have some land for sale.
 

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Jaguars first of all...Why come in as a ghost? Did EGD really say he couldnt pay a dime even? WTF? I find this hard to believe....I mean does anyone here really bet, lol...jeez, I really believe people bet , why are people here posting and talking about games than?
No one bets real money, no one can afford to pay...this one really baffles me...
 
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Journey I can care less what this ghost or anyone thinks quite frankly as most are just a bunch of people piling on to the latest drama angle. If they want to think I'm poor let them, if they want to think I live with family then let them, I can care less.

These people don't pay my bills, house, taxes, etc... so they are NOBODY to me. Let the children gossip away. I know the whole story better then anyone else for sure. There is a very good reason why not ONE person has come to vouch for this guy.

I'm done with this stupidity, have a nice day gentlemen.
 

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Journeyman,



I am a poster at OSGD. I didnt have posts here. There were several IM"s posted at OSGD where he said he didnt have a dime. He said it would be a miracle if he could get a dime by friday and likely couldnt even get $500.

Like I said I dont care what happens with this because I believe the bookie might be a scammer as well. The point is that he wasnt going to pay either way because he didnt have the money and this is an excuse.

He said it would be a miracle in late July and also asked if he could keep playing because he thought he could get even or maybe even get up.
 

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